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Discussion and reports by East Central Wisconsin Paranormal Investigations
Equipment used: Trifield Standard EMF meter, Trifield Natural EMF Meter, Cellsensor EMF meter, Digital Cameras, Digital Voice Recorders, Dual Infrared Non-contact Thermometer/Air Probe Thermometer, Sony Camcorders w/Nightshot
Background: The site is an abandoned Catholic school/church with five run down buildings (the school, the old dorms, the church, the library, and the printing building) and two fixed up buildings (the new dorms and the renaissance building, where we set up our headquarters for the investigation). These were the only two buildings that had electricity. There's also a cemetery with all priests and the crypt of the founder of St. Nazianz, Father Oschwald, and an underground tunnel system.
DO NOT go there without permission! You'll be arrested and fined $5,000 for breaking and entering, NOT for trespassing which is a lesser offense.
History: In the months leading up to our investigation, we researched the history and compiled this packet of information:
--The death and body of the founder Father Oschwald:
"Anton Stoll records: 'A number of times, I have observed that [Father Oschwald], with closed eyes, when there was no one else in the room but I alone, would extend his hands in blessing, and then with his hand, signal someone away, and yet I saw no one in the room.'"
Father Oschwald was dying and could have just been delirious, not seeing ghosts.
It is strange that Father Oschwald's body didn't decompose for all those years. This is supposed to be a saint thing. Lenin's body doesn't decompose either, but his body is preserved by biochemists using chemicals. And it is taken in to a laboratory every 18 months. According to the Russian doctor who not too long ago did a makeover on Lenin's corpse, "He looked terrible when he died, but what you see now is Lenin's face, not someone else's." In Moscow, "mausoleumists" earn most of their money by preserving the bodies of dead mafia bosses. In 1970, the staff secretly embalmed the body of Ho Chi Minh that was on display in Hanoi. I'm not saying there were hoaxers at work on Father Oschwald's body, as the then-untested chemical process used on Lenin was developed in 1924 and Oschwald died in 1873. And even if somehow somebody could get into the vault and sneak out Oschwald's body once every year and a half without anybody noticing, the process used on Lenin takes 30 days. But it makes you think if there could be a scientific explanation.
--The "curse" of Father Oschwald:
Popular legend has it that Father Oschwald was evil and he cursed the town of St. Nazianz because the State took the land away in 1896, and that's how the haunting started. But Father Oschwald died in 1873. The land was taken away twenty years after Oschwald's death. He couldn't have cursed it.
It is true that as Father Oschwald lay dying there were poundings heard on the doors and walls all around town -- everywhere except in the room where Father Oschwald lay dying:
But this, again, was not because he was EVIL. This can be explained by a phenomenon called Recurrent Spontaneous Psychokinesis (RSPK). RSPK is an unconscious form of Psychokinesis. Sometimes when a person is in physical or emotional pain, or just under a lot of stress, they can unconsciously make their own bed shake or make knocking sounds on the walls, because they're rebelling on a subconscious level. If you have a lot of stress or trauma in your life, it can continue and it can follow you from house to house until you solve the emotional problem that's causing it. Another term for this is a "poltergeist" -- poltergeists really don't have anything to do with ghosts, despite what you've seen in movies. The only thing the "Poltergeist" movies got right is it's typically a young girl going through puberty who's causing it, but not always. Father Oschwald was not lashing out on the town, he was just dying and in a lot of pain, and he was psychokinetically pounding on the doors and walls all over town because he wanted the pain to stop. He didn't even know he was doing it.
Our Investigation: Katie, Keith, Michael, Barry and I arrived at 3PM and spent the afternoon just walking through the buildings and thinking about how we were going to set up. On the initial walkthrough back in May, the owner only had time to show us through two of the seven buildings and the cemetery. The plan was to spend the afternoon taking some base readings with our EMF meters, mapping out the buildings, and doing some control audio recordings with nobody in the buildings. But the place is so big that we didn't get done and had to get going on our investigation. However, we were able to do more on our follow up.
The rest of the group arrived later, and we started the investigation at 8:00PM.
NIGHT 1, ROTATION 1 (8PM-12AM):
We split up into three groups. Jaeson was the zone leader for Group 1. There were six people in that group including Jaeson and myself, and there was an EMT in case anybody got hurt. Barry was the zone leader for Group 2 and there were five people in that group including her. She had one EMT in her group, just in case. Michael was zone leader for Group 3 and there were six people in his group including himself. Michael has medical training and he's a psychic.
Then we also had someone stay in headquarters all night and monitor Michael's live video feed on a laptop. The three groups communicated by walkie-talkie and were assigned to separate buildings.
Jaeson's group investigated the school building first. We did a sweep of the building, then set up a video camera and Trifield Natural EMF Meter in the only hallway where the owner left a power strip for us. (The buildings have no electricity.) We put motion detectors around the camera so that nobody could tamper with it, then we left the building and sat outside. (You can't walk around with the Trifield Natural Meter because it's so sensitive it can detect the nerve impulses in your body when you move. But it's also one of the best EMF meters you can get for that same reason.) Since there was one group in each building that first night (but not in the printing building which the owner didn't let us in to until the second night, and not in the two fixed-up buildings, which we didn't investigate), we had to just sit and wait for the end of the rotation because we had no place else to go. Jaeson admitted to me that there were just too many people (the owner also kept going back and forth between the groups to see how we were doing) and this wasn't his normal ghost hunting method. The second night and follow-up investigation were more high quality experiences where we had smaller and fewer groups, and we had impressed the owner enough with our professionalism the first night that he let us have the place all to ourselves to do with what we wanted in our subsequent visits.
Group 1 didn't come up with anything in the school.
Barry's group, meanwhile, was investigating the cemetery, church, library, and basements underneath (that was all one zone...it was a lot smaller than it sounds). Barry said in between rotations that it was pretty dead and uneventful.
Then later upon reviewing their audio, they came up with this possible EVP. What you are about to listen to was recorded by Mark. First, you'll hear the owner ask, "What should we do with the place?" Then, you'll hear Barry repeat, "What should he do with the place?" The others present were Kurt and Rhonda, and two other investigators from the other group. None of them recall hearing what comes next:
Mark had his digital voice recorder in hand and we have a log of where everybody else was at the time. Kurt said that Barry was doing a very good job of identifying any sounds that could later be mistaken as EVPs into the recorder ("that was a stomach" or "that was me shifting"), but nobody made any comment on the recorder after this sound. If this was just someone clearing their throat, it sounds like it's right there in the room and we think someone would have heard it and asked, "That was so-and-so clearing his throat?" or at least made a mental note of it, especially after THAT question.
However, there's really no way to be 100% sure because nobody was videotaping the EVP session. We now videotape all our EVP sessions, but because this was one of our first investigations we hadn't thought to do that.Group 3:
With the fewer people, there was no rotation schedule. You just worked with who you wanted and investigated what you wanted, and I kept track of where everybody was on walkie-talkies.
Barry, Katie, Keith, and Jody started in the church, and Michael, Jaeson, and I headed straight for the old dorms. Michael showed Jaeson and I around the old dorms and he showed us the "suitcase room". Also on the fourth floor across the hall from the "suitcase room" is the alleged Satan Room where, according to urban legend, the founder of St. Nazianz, Father Oschwald, or just a regular priest had an encounter with Satan and then the room was boarded up to protect the students and faculty. The Satan Room is a dud, no surprise. It's not boarded up, and we didn't experience a thing in there. It's just a room. Father Oschwald could not have had an encounter with Satan or anything in that room because the school was built 100 years after Father Oschwald's time.
We set up a video camera and voice recorder in the "suitcase room", and we put motion detectors at the stairs on the third and fourth floors. I left my voice recorder in a closet on the fourth floor.
Then we went down to the third floor and just sat quietly in the hallway and waited for something to happen. Around the same time that Michael had the experience with the suitcase the first night, the motion detectors started going off all over the place. We got up and walked toward the stairs to see if we could see what was setting them off. Bats? There were bats in that building. Jaeson was walking with his Trifield Standard EMF Meter (the one you CAN walk around with) when his needle started going crazy. There was no power in the building. A few moments later I saw a door open. A door opening can be recreated very easily, if it's not shut tight, and it wasn't. The wood expanding can cause it to swing open. It may still be worth noting that it happened right after the EMF spike, but it doesn't prove anything.
We radioed for the others to come, and then a little while after they got there things got dead again. Jaeson and Barry left for the printing building. Katie, Keith, and Jody left for the cemetery. Michael and I stayed in the dorms for a little while longer and then left to go back to base for a short break. Then we went to investigate the little yellow barn that the owner had opened up for us. The owner said he had heard stories of cult activity in that barn from long before, and was curious if we would find anything in there.
Michael and I set up motion detectors at the entrances, then explored it by ourselves while taking some pictures and asking questions for EVP. There was nothing in there, and in the subsequent times I've been back I never came up with anything in that barn or even got a creepy feeling. Michael and me then left to meet Jaeson and Barry in the printing building.
We stayed together and stopped to do EVP circles in all the big rooms and took lots of pictures.
Next we moved back into the school and walked around the tunnels where Michael thought he'd seen a shadow the night before. As we walked we again took pictures and EMF readings, and we stopped in all the big rooms to do EVP circles. We continued on through the locker rooms, then through the cafeteria directly under the gym, and then up into the gym.
After we left the gym we decided to walk the perimeter of the grounds because there were also stories of ghost sightings in the surrounding woods. We didn't experience anything, and in fact we only got as far as the cemetery.
It was now about 2:30 in the morning, my voice recorder was full again, and we'd spent about 15 hours total investigating so far. We'd also been up till 4 in the morning the night before. We were all getting tired, and were ready to go home early. Everybody was back in the renaissance building again and starting to pack up.
Michael and I wanted to go up to the old dorms one last time before going home. We went alone, and when we entered we went straight up the stairs to the fourth floor.The air felt really heavy, though admittedly that could have just been because we were alone.
Barry wanted to get back to headquarters right away and put the pictures on her computer before she pushed a wrong button and erased them or something. So we left the suitcase room and made our way out. When we got to the second story landing, Michael said he heard a dog growl but nobody else did. We went to investigate, and we entered into a little chapel with a balcony over it where you can look down from the third floor where we had come. Michael said there was something watching us from the balcony. We snapped some pictures and asked some questions, but nobody else experienced anything.
After returning to the renaissance building and putting the pictures on Barry's labtop and showing them to the owner, we went back to the "suitcase room" again. We stayed until dawn, but nothing more happened.
We left the building, shook hands with everyone, and there ended our first investigation of JFK Prep.
FOLLOW-UP INVESTIGATION (OCTOBER 8, 2005):
Investigators present: Matt from Midwest Preternatural Research, Katie, Keith and Jody from Fox Valley Spirit Hunters, and Kurt and Mark from HPI.
We did a follow-up a couple months later on October 8th. Without nearly as many people this time, we broke up into small groups and split up over the campus to try to recreate some of what we had experienced on the first visit. We also just wanted to get in and do some more investigating, and try new things.
Katie, Keith, and Jody were in a group together, and they headed over to the church. Katie had brought a CD player along to introduce music in the church and see if that would get a reaction, but it refused to work (she admits she was already having problems with it before she left home). So instead, she thought she would just sing in the church to see what would happen.
The first thing she sang was "Ave Maria" by Schubert. After she finished singing it, she got this on her recorder:
A few moments later, she decided to try a Christmas carol (having run out of memorized hymns), even though this was still early October. Then, about an hour or so after Katie's group had left to go investigate somewhere else, Kurt and Mark were camped out nearby on the first floor of the old dorms (which leads into the church) recording for EVPs. They were sitting quietly when this happened:
In the clip, Mark and Kurt are sitting quietly when you hear something start to play an electronic version of "We Wish You A Merry Christmas". Mark asks Kurt if that's his cell phone, and he tells him that it isn't. After taking *everything* out of his pockets (recorder, digital camera, walkie talkie, etc...), Kurt finally takes out his cell phone, and realizes that the sound actually *IS* coming from his phone.
What makes this so unusual is, Kurt says that song isn't anywhere on his cell phone. He says he knows what ringtones he has, and he knows what sounds are on his phone, and he can say with 100% certainty that "We Wish You A Merry Christmas" is *not* anywhere on there.
Kurt also says that the sound plays at a much lower volume than his ringtones and other sounds do, and the sound seemed to be coming not from the speaker, but more from actually somewhere inside the phone.
When he hit a button on the phone, the song stopped.
He says he has no explanation for this. His phone isn't very advanced, so there is no way that someone could send him the sound without him knowing.
It could have been a glitch in the system, or some kind of hidden "Easter Egg" on the phone, but why would it play THAT song in October?
He says that honestly he didn't put much thought into it at the time, passing it off more or less as a glitch. When they got back to the main building, however, and Katie told him how they had been singing Christmas carols in the church not too long before this happened, it really made him wonder.
Was it a glitch, a strange coincidence, or something else?
MISC. POSSIBLE EVPS:
Recorded May 1, 2005 by Katie during our initial walkthrough of the old school building. Katie and Barry have stopped to chat somewhere on the first floor and this came through:
Again, recorded May 1, 2005 by Katie. Recorded after we entered Father Oschwald's crypt in the Salvatorian Cemetery just above the property:
Recorded May 1, 2005 by Katie. Katie's camera has failed and as she is fussing with it, this came through. The person she's talking to is the owner. It could be a human whisper, but why would someone say THIS in the vicinity of a client?
Recorded November 13 when Kurt was there by himself helping the owner clean. He was in the old dorms sweeping the floor and the owner was outside. There was only one other person on the grounds at the time, and there were no females anywhere:
We recorded several more possible EVPs during our investigation, but I've chosen not to include them because I can't be sure it wasn't one of us. When in doubt, throw it out.
FINAL ANALYSIS: There aren't ghosts in white sheets rattling chains at JFK Prep, but based on our findings I think *something* was going on. But it's also exaggerated (about 90% of the time we were there nothing was happening), and a lot of the stories are nonsense, like the town being cursed and Father Oschwald being evil. I don't believe the place is evil or demonic or that there's anything dangerous there. Most of the time it just felt peaceful. I think there's a lot of imagination and psychology involved. I think if you go in to a big spooky place like this shivering with fear and anticipating being possessed by evil spirits, in your *head* you're going to get an attachment and be followed home. The couple of people that I've met who claim that they were followed around by something while they were here were all people who were quivering with fear before they even set foot on the grounds. I think it's in your head. Go in with a level head, and nothing can hurt you. Also, a lot of the stories about JFK Prep that you can find on the internet were written by teenagers and young kids who were trespassing, and I wouldn't give them much credibility because they were after all just after a cheap thrill.